03-24-2026, 04:57 PM
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
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PCN Excel Crossley Retail Park, Halifax
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03-24-2026, 04:57 PM
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
03-29-2026, 02:39 PM
03-29-2026, 06:32 PM
Yes, that can be normal. A lack of email acknowledgement does not mean the complaint or appeal was not submitted, especially where a general contact form is being used rather than a proper appeal portal with an automated receipt.
What matters now is evidence. You should keep: screenshots of the completed form before submission
If there was no confirmation screen and no email acknowledgement, that is not ideal, but it is not fatal. It simply means you should be ready to show that you made a genuine attempt to lodge the complaint and appeal through the only reasonable online route available. If Excel later try to say no appeal was made, the response is straightforward: their portal was unsuitable because it forced driver-style admissions, so you used the general contact route to submit a formal complaint that also had to be treated as an appeal. A short follow-up message through the same contact page can also be sent saying: Quote:I submitted a formal complaint and appeal regarding PCN [number] on [date] via your contact form. No acknowledgement has been received. Please confirm receipt and confirm that it is being treated as an appeal under section 11.2 of the PPSCoP and under your complaints policy. That creates a second timestamped record.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
Thanks for this, there was a confirmation screen, please see image below, interesting they advise that this form cannot be used to appeal a parking charge? I guess the keeper does have the evidence needed.
I also sent a follow up message as advised above, kept a screenshot of before/after and emailed to the keeper to get a timestamp.
03-30-2026, 03:31 PM
(03-30-2026, 02:51 PM)3Sh3roo Wrote: ...interesting they advise that this form cannot be used to appeal a parking charge? I guess the keeper does have the evidence needed. That's just their corrupt way of trying to avoid their own liability. The PPSCoP clearly states at section 11.2 and 11.3 as follows: Quote:11.2. Where a parking operator receives a complaint that it considers to be or include an appeal against the validity of a parking charge, the parking operator must also treat it as an appeal for the purposes of applying the timescales in Clause 8.4, and should inform the complainant as such unless and until it is clear that the complaint is not relevant to an appeal or the complainant informs the parking operator that they do not wish it to be so handled. If you don't receive any response within 14 days you can complain directly to the BPA. Their rules clearly state that an appeal included within a complaint, then it must be treated as one. As their only route online to make a complaint is their contact form, then you have complied with their silly rules and the ball is in their court. PPSCoP v1.1
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
The keeper received the below email from them after sending a follow up:
Quote:----------- Should the keeper now use this email address and resend the contents of the first appeal as they are claiming they have not received anything?
04-01-2026, 01:05 PM
Yes. You should now use that email address and resend the complaint and appeal there. Please show us the email address used as it will be useful for future correspondence.
Excel have expressly opened that complaint/appeal channel by inviting confirmation and further information, so it should now be used to box them in. You should not just resend it as a complaint. Make clear that it is both your formal complaint and your formal appeal against the PCN, and that it must be treated as both under section 11.2 of the PPSCoP. You should also attach the 9 screenshots. They are not proof that Excel actually received the original webform submission, but they are contemporaneous evidence of your attempted submission and of the fact that Excel’s system is wholly unfit for purpose because it provides no acknowledgement, no copy of the submission and no independent proof of delivery. So yes, use that email address now, resend the full complaint and appeal, attach the screenshots, and make clear that any failure of their webform or internal systems is their problem, not yours. Quote:Dear Excel Central Processing Office,
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
04-01-2026, 04:50 PM
Perfect thanks, their email address is cpo@excelparking.co.uk so can be used in future by others for appeals.
04-02-2026, 06:19 PM
Response as follows from Excel:
Quote:From: cpo@excelparking.co.uk <cpo@excelparking.co.uk>
04-02-2026, 06:55 PM
They are now expressly treating what you sent by email as an appeal, which is the main thing that mattered. That means the appeal is now safely in play and they have boxed themselves in on timing.
Their attempt to defend the portal is beside the point. The problem was never whether a keeper can tick a box saying they are the registered keeper. The problem is that the mandatory “reason” wording is framed in the first person as though the appellant is describing what they themselves did, which is plainly unsuitable for a keeper who is not admitting to being the driver. For now, I would not get dragged into a side argument about that. They have confirmed receipt, confirmed they will review it as an appeal, and confirmed that this email address can be used if there is difficulty with the portal. That is enough. Keep that email safe. If/when they reject, then we deal with the rejection and their inevitable nonsense at the next stage. If they fail to respond within 28 days, that becomes another point against them.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain
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