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			<title><![CDATA[ParkingEye - parked over time - Lidl, London]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=73</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 13:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
The driver parked at Lidl Thornton Heath for 1h 42m while the maximum allowed time was 1h 30m.<br />
<br />
Driver kept the receipt from that day. There was a problem at the checkout where one of the items was returning an "unrecognised item".<br />
<br />
It took a while for the staff to sort out the problem and that's why the driver went over the allowed time.<br />
<br />
Should I, as the registered keeper, appeal to Parking Eye with the receipt? Or try my luck with Lidl directly?<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi,<br />
<br />
The driver parked at Lidl Thornton Heath for 1h 42m while the maximum allowed time was 1h 30m.<br />
<br />
Driver kept the receipt from that day. There was a problem at the checkout where one of the items was returning an "unrecognised item".<br />
<br />
It took a while for the staff to sort out the problem and that's why the driver went over the allowed time.<br />
<br />
Should I, as the registered keeper, appeal to Parking Eye with the receipt? Or try my luck with Lidl directly?<br />
<br />
<a href="https://ibb.co/zWqVmQKT" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/ds84fjnw/IMG-6324.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: IMG-6324.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[PCN for not parking correctly in space]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=72</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 10:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Bank Park Parking Management, relating to an alleged contravention on Sunday, 15 March 2026. The notice itself is dated Friday, 20 March 2026, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Tandem Centre, High Street Colliers Wood, London, SW19 2TY.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Tuesday, 24 March 2026 (9 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: Yes<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Response/appeal already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
This was their response: <br />
<br />
Thank you for your recent communication concerning parking charge reference 3338160741109.<br />
On the day in question your vehicle was parked outside the demarcation of a parking bay, The signage at the aforementioned car park clearly states that<br />
vehicles must be parked fully within the confines of a single marked bay.<br />
The appeal has been reviewed, having considered and investigated your appeal the PCN has been issued correctly. We operate under the code of practice<br />
for Parking Enforcement on private land and public car parks as issued by the International Parking Community (IPC) and our Parking Charge Notice’s are<br />
not deemed to be unfair at law – IPC Code of Practice: <a href="https://theipc/code-of-practice" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://theipc/code-of-practice</a><br />
Our appeals process is now concluded, you may now choose one of the following options:<br />
1) Pay the parking charge detailed above at the reduced rate of £60.00 to Bank Park Management Ltd. PLEASE REFER OVERLEAF FOR PAYMENT<br />
OPTIONS AND ADDRESS DETAILS.<br />
2) Make an appeal to the independent adjudicator If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service<br />
(IAS). In order to appeal, you will need your parking charge number, your vehicle registration and the date the charge was originally issued. Appeals must be<br />
submitted to the IAS within 28 days of the date of this letter. Please note that if you wish to appeal to the IAS, you will lose the right to pay the discounted<br />
rate of £60.00, and should the IAS reject your appeal you will be required to pay the full amount of £100.00. If you opt to pay the parking charge you will<br />
be unable to appeal with the IAS. Please note Please visit <a href="http://www.theias.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">www.theias.org</a> for full details.<br />
3) If you choose to do nothing the parking charge will automatically increase after thirty-five days from the date of this letter to £100.00 and the matter<br />
will be passed to our debt recovery agent, at which point you will be liable to pay an additional charge of £70.00, in accordance with the terms and<br />
conditions of parking, and further charges will be claimed if court action is taken against you. Any unpaid court judgement may adversely affect your credit<br />
rating.<br />
Yours sincerely,<br />
Appeals Department<br />
Bank Park Management Ltd<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
I sent an appeal something along the lines of this, using chatgpt, I don't have a copy of what I sent. <br />
<br />
"Compliance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 is central to this appeal, as the operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice to me in my capacity as the registered keeper of the vehicle.<br />
There is no evidence or allegation that I was the driver at the material time. The operator has therefore sought to rely on the provisions of Schedule 4 to transfer liability from the driver to the keeper.<br />
A creditor may only recover unpaid parking charges from a vehicle’s keeper where the strict requirements of Schedule 4 are fully complied with. This is set out at Paragraph 4(1) and 4(2) of Schedule 4.<br />
Paragraph 4(2)(a) requires that the conditions set out in Paragraph 6 are met. Paragraph 6(1)(b) in turn requires that a Notice to Keeper is given in accordance with Paragraph 9.<br />
Paragraph 9(2)(a) requires that the Notice to Keeper must specify “the period of parking to which the notice relates.”<br />
The Notice to Keeper in this case fails to meet this requirement. It provides only a single timestamp rather than a defined period of parking. A timestamp does not constitute a “period of parking” as required by the Act.<br />
This failure is fatal to the operator’s ability to transfer liability to the keeper.<br />
As the operator has not complied with the mandatory provisions of Schedule 4, they have no lawful basis to pursue me as the registered keeper. I am under no obligation to identify the driver, and I decline to do so."<br />
<br />
I also saved the photos of the contravention of the vehicle not parked in the bay properly, but it only show time stamp between 11:11:41 to 11:12:53. No driver was shown in the photos<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Bank Park Parking Management, relating to an alleged contravention on Sunday, 15 March 2026. The notice itself is dated Friday, 20 March 2026, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Tandem Centre, High Street Colliers Wood, London, SW19 2TY.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Tuesday, 24 March 2026 (9 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: Yes<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Response/appeal already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
This was their response: <br />
<br />
Thank you for your recent communication concerning parking charge reference 3338160741109.<br />
On the day in question your vehicle was parked outside the demarcation of a parking bay, The signage at the aforementioned car park clearly states that<br />
vehicles must be parked fully within the confines of a single marked bay.<br />
The appeal has been reviewed, having considered and investigated your appeal the PCN has been issued correctly. We operate under the code of practice<br />
for Parking Enforcement on private land and public car parks as issued by the International Parking Community (IPC) and our Parking Charge Notice’s are<br />
not deemed to be unfair at law – IPC Code of Practice: <a href="https://theipc/code-of-practice" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://theipc/code-of-practice</a><br />
Our appeals process is now concluded, you may now choose one of the following options:<br />
1) Pay the parking charge detailed above at the reduced rate of £60.00 to Bank Park Management Ltd. PLEASE REFER OVERLEAF FOR PAYMENT<br />
OPTIONS AND ADDRESS DETAILS.<br />
2) Make an appeal to the independent adjudicator If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service<br />
(IAS). In order to appeal, you will need your parking charge number, your vehicle registration and the date the charge was originally issued. Appeals must be<br />
submitted to the IAS within 28 days of the date of this letter. Please note that if you wish to appeal to the IAS, you will lose the right to pay the discounted<br />
rate of £60.00, and should the IAS reject your appeal you will be required to pay the full amount of £100.00. If you opt to pay the parking charge you will<br />
be unable to appeal with the IAS. Please note Please visit <a href="http://www.theias.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">www.theias.org</a> for full details.<br />
3) If you choose to do nothing the parking charge will automatically increase after thirty-five days from the date of this letter to £100.00 and the matter<br />
will be passed to our debt recovery agent, at which point you will be liable to pay an additional charge of £70.00, in accordance with the terms and<br />
conditions of parking, and further charges will be claimed if court action is taken against you. Any unpaid court judgement may adversely affect your credit<br />
rating.<br />
Yours sincerely,<br />
Appeals Department<br />
Bank Park Management Ltd<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
I sent an appeal something along the lines of this, using chatgpt, I don't have a copy of what I sent. <br />
<br />
"Compliance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 is central to this appeal, as the operator has issued the Parking Charge Notice to me in my capacity as the registered keeper of the vehicle.<br />
There is no evidence or allegation that I was the driver at the material time. The operator has therefore sought to rely on the provisions of Schedule 4 to transfer liability from the driver to the keeper.<br />
A creditor may only recover unpaid parking charges from a vehicle’s keeper where the strict requirements of Schedule 4 are fully complied with. This is set out at Paragraph 4(1) and 4(2) of Schedule 4.<br />
Paragraph 4(2)(a) requires that the conditions set out in Paragraph 6 are met. Paragraph 6(1)(b) in turn requires that a Notice to Keeper is given in accordance with Paragraph 9.<br />
Paragraph 9(2)(a) requires that the Notice to Keeper must specify “the period of parking to which the notice relates.”<br />
The Notice to Keeper in this case fails to meet this requirement. It provides only a single timestamp rather than a defined period of parking. A timestamp does not constitute a “period of parking” as required by the Act.<br />
This failure is fatal to the operator’s ability to transfer liability to the keeper.<br />
As the operator has not complied with the mandatory provisions of Schedule 4, they have no lawful basis to pursue me as the registered keeper. I am under no obligation to identify the driver, and I decline to do so."<br />
<br />
I also saved the photos of the contravention of the vehicle not parked in the bay properly, but it only show time stamp between 11:11:41 to 11:12:53. No driver was shown in the photos<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.<br />
<br />
<img src="https://pptla.uk/images/attachtypes/image.png" title="JPG Image" border="0" alt=".jpg" />
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			<title><![CDATA[GXS PCN Cancelled. What to do now ?]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=70</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello,<br />
<br />
I come from the FTLA website and it’s regarding my post there. Could you please give me some advice on what to do now?<br />
<br />
I sent a complaint to GXS as one of the experienced users suggested, to show that I’ve been trying to resolve this issue. They have just cancelled the PCN after admitting they used the wrong photos.<br />
I thought it wouldn’t get cancelled and that I would be able to go down the LOC + counterclaim route for highest bill, as one of the experienced users suggested. But now that it’s cancelled, I’m not sure what the best option is.<br />
<br />
I feel like I need to hurt their pockets to the max. They blatantly sent me a PCN with multiple completely wrong evidence, rejected my appeal even though I clearly pointed out the obvious errors, held their stance, sent a final reminder, and then passed my personal details to a third-party debt collector - all to try and get money out of innocent people like me for something I didn’t do.<br />
<br />
Here’s the link to my thread:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/gxs-services-pcn-unauthorised-vehicle-different-car-in-evidence-no-timestamp-on-/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...stamp-on-/</a><br />
<br />
Please have a read through it. If you need any pictures of the letters, just let me know.<br />
<br />
Thanks <br />
<br />
Also, this is the last reply I got from them:<br />
<br />
“I write in response to your recent correspondence regarding the above cited matter.<br />
<br />
We appreciate you taking the time to raise your concerns with us and we regret that you have found yourself in a situation that has caused frustration or inconvenience.<br />
<br />
Nature of your complaint<br />
<br />
From my understanding, you wish to lodge a complaint regarding the above Parking Charge Notice (PCN). <br />
In light of your correspondence, I can confirm that a full investigation has been conducted into the issues raised and we are committed to reviewing all complaints thoroughly, fairly, and in accordance with the relevant industry standards.<br />
<br />
Responses have been provided below addressing the substantive and relevant aspects of your correspondence. Portions of your correspondence may have been deemed repetitive, unfounded, or not materially relevant to the matter at hand and such points may not have been addressed in detail. For the avoidance of doubt, where we have not directly responded to a specific point, this should not be interpreted as agreement or acceptance of the same.<br />
<br />
Our investigation and findings<br />
<br />
For future reference, if you ever disagree with a decision made following an appeal response, your next steps of dispute should be through the Independent Appeals Service (IAS), so that the matter can be reviewed by an adjudicator who does not work for ourselves.<br />
<br />
Due to the severity of the claim you have made, I have reviewed the matter on this occasion.<br />
<br />
On review I can see there has been an administrative error, and the wrong photos have been placed into this charge. Due to the error I can confirm that this case has now been cancelled with immediate effect. Apologies that this was not caught during your internal appeal. The appeal handler has been corrected of their mistake.<br />
<br />
Next steps<br />
<br />
While we trust that this has provided clarity on our position and the justification for the same, as your complaint has now been reviewed by a member of the Compliance Team and/or the Quality and Compliance Manager, should you be dissatisfied with the outcome, you may either write back to us for further comment or, alternatively, you have the right to complain to our Trade Association, the International Parking Community (IPC) – <a href="http://www.theipc.info" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">www.theipc.info</a><br />
<br />
Yours sincerely,<br />
<br />
The Compliance Team<br />
GXS Services Ltd”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello,<br />
<br />
I come from the FTLA website and it’s regarding my post there. Could you please give me some advice on what to do now?<br />
<br />
I sent a complaint to GXS as one of the experienced users suggested, to show that I’ve been trying to resolve this issue. They have just cancelled the PCN after admitting they used the wrong photos.<br />
I thought it wouldn’t get cancelled and that I would be able to go down the LOC + counterclaim route for highest bill, as one of the experienced users suggested. But now that it’s cancelled, I’m not sure what the best option is.<br />
<br />
I feel like I need to hurt their pockets to the max. They blatantly sent me a PCN with multiple completely wrong evidence, rejected my appeal even though I clearly pointed out the obvious errors, held their stance, sent a final reminder, and then passed my personal details to a third-party debt collector - all to try and get money out of innocent people like me for something I didn’t do.<br />
<br />
Here’s the link to my thread:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/gxs-services-pcn-unauthorised-vehicle-different-car-in-evidence-no-timestamp-on-/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...stamp-on-/</a><br />
<br />
Please have a read through it. If you need any pictures of the letters, just let me know.<br />
<br />
Thanks <br />
<br />
Also, this is the last reply I got from them:<br />
<br />
“I write in response to your recent correspondence regarding the above cited matter.<br />
<br />
We appreciate you taking the time to raise your concerns with us and we regret that you have found yourself in a situation that has caused frustration or inconvenience.<br />
<br />
Nature of your complaint<br />
<br />
From my understanding, you wish to lodge a complaint regarding the above Parking Charge Notice (PCN). <br />
In light of your correspondence, I can confirm that a full investigation has been conducted into the issues raised and we are committed to reviewing all complaints thoroughly, fairly, and in accordance with the relevant industry standards.<br />
<br />
Responses have been provided below addressing the substantive and relevant aspects of your correspondence. Portions of your correspondence may have been deemed repetitive, unfounded, or not materially relevant to the matter at hand and such points may not have been addressed in detail. For the avoidance of doubt, where we have not directly responded to a specific point, this should not be interpreted as agreement or acceptance of the same.<br />
<br />
Our investigation and findings<br />
<br />
For future reference, if you ever disagree with a decision made following an appeal response, your next steps of dispute should be through the Independent Appeals Service (IAS), so that the matter can be reviewed by an adjudicator who does not work for ourselves.<br />
<br />
Due to the severity of the claim you have made, I have reviewed the matter on this occasion.<br />
<br />
On review I can see there has been an administrative error, and the wrong photos have been placed into this charge. Due to the error I can confirm that this case has now been cancelled with immediate effect. Apologies that this was not caught during your internal appeal. The appeal handler has been corrected of their mistake.<br />
<br />
Next steps<br />
<br />
While we trust that this has provided clarity on our position and the justification for the same, as your complaint has now been reviewed by a member of the Compliance Team and/or the Quality and Compliance Manager, should you be dissatisfied with the outcome, you may either write back to us for further comment or, alternatively, you have the right to complain to our Trade Association, the International Parking Community (IPC) – <a href="http://www.theipc.info" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">www.theipc.info</a><br />
<br />
Yours sincerely,<br />
<br />
The Compliance Team<br />
GXS Services Ltd”]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[6 PCNs - No permit]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=69</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 14:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=43">newpcnappeal</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello, I have am posting a follow up here over from FTLA.uk website regarding my post there: <a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/pcn-x5-private-land-no-permit-ukcps-the-bar-st-james-gate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...ames-gate/</a><br />
<br />
Update as of now:<br />
<br />
1. As expected, all appeals to UKCPS and the IAS have been dismissed. <br />
<br />
The IAS give the following response:<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in an area where the Operator has authority to issue Parking Charge Notices and to take the necessary steps to enforce them.<br />
<br />
I have previously determined the Appellant's appeal against PCN no. z509896, z462713, z483355, z483360 and z518315. Whilst each appeal is determined on its own merits, the Appellant appeals this PCN on the same basis as the aforementioned PCNs. Therefore my considerations are largely the same.<br />
<br />
Images have been provided to me by the Operator which shows the signage displayed on this site. After viewing those images I am satisfied that the signage is sufficient to have brought to the attention of the Appellant the terms and conditions that apply to parking on this site.<br />
<br />
The terms and conditions of parking at this location are such that drivers must display a valid permit in their vehicle which entitles them to park there. In the photographs provided to me it is clear that no such permit was displayed and this is not disputed by the Appellant. It is the driver's responsibility to ensure that they display a valid permit and otherwise conform with the terms and conditions of the Operator's signage displayed at this site. Mitigating/extenuating circumstances cannot be taken into account. The Appellant's distinction between permit holders and non-permit holders is not correct. The terms and conditions apply to all drivers. The difference between them is that permit holders are able to comply with the terms (provided they correctly display their permit), whereas non-permit holders cannot. This is the exact desired effect of the terms and conditions; permit holders are permitted to park and non-permit holders are not. The Appellant claims to have rights under his tenancy agreement which he purports is for the address he sets out in his response. However, the document provided appears to be either a redacted or template tenancy agreement. It does not contain any key information such as the property address, parties names or dates and is unsigned. Therefore, I have no evidence that this document has any relevance or connection to the Appellant or to this site. It is certainly not evidence of an unrestricted right to park and no other evidence demonstrating this is provided. It is often the case that a right to park on a site is subject to the rules and regulations put in place by the landowner, such as a parking enforcement scheme. If the Appellant has a connection to a property on this site, whether by way of a tenancy agreement or otherwise, the Appellant may wish to check the position to avoid any future PCNs being issued to him. The Appellant raises as an issue the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and purports that the Operator has failed to comply with the requirements therein. I am not satisfied that the Appellant has established a breach of PoFA. Whilst the NTK sets out the time of issue, as is appropriate, the period is the time over which the vehicle is observed as shown in the images (which the keeper is directed to on the NTK). The period shown in the images provided to me is 20:54 - 21:00. On the basis of the evidence provided I am satisfied that the NTK is compliant and that the Operator is entitled to pursue the Appellant as the registered keeper. The Appellant's contention that the Operator's evidence relies on a single moment in time and is therefore insufficient is also not accepted for this reason. Whilst I cannot comment on the Appellant's argument that the Operator has not engaged with him on substantive legal issues, this is not a basis upon which I could allow the appeal in any event. The pertinent point in this appeal is that I am satisfied that the Operator has established their prima facie case that the Appellant failed to display a valid permit. In all Appeals the burden of proof is the civil one whereby the party asserting a fact or submission has to establish that matter on the balance of probabilities. The Operator has established that the Parking Charge Notice was properly and legally issued and therefore the burden shifts to the Appellant to establish that the notice was improperly or unlawfully issued and if the Appellant proves those matters on the balance of probabilities then it is likely that the Appeal will be allowed. However the Appeal will be dismissed if the Appellant fails to establish those matters on the balance of probabilities. The responsibility is at all times on the parties to provide the Adjudicator with the evidential basis upon which to make a decision. For the reasons I have set out above, the Appellant has not provided sufficient evidence to establish that the notice was improperly or unlawfully issued. As such, on the basis of the evidence provided I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in breach of the displayed terms and conditions and that the PCN was correctly issued on this occasion.<br />
<br />
I have considered all the issues raised by both parties in this Appeal and I am satisfied that the Operator has established that the Parking Charge Notice was properly issued in accordance with the law and therefore this Appeal is dismissed.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
2. In parallel I have submitted formal complaints to the estate management company in an attempt for them to order UKCPS to cancel all charges but they have refused, which now allows me to escalate to the property ombudsman <br />
<br />
They gave the following response to my 2nd formal complaint:<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Thank you for your patience while we reviewed your concerns. We understand that parking disputes can be frustrating; however, after a full internal review, our position remains as follows:<br />
<br />
Contractual Basis and Information Sharing:<br />
<br />
We recognise your frustration regarding the lack of direct documentation provided by Trinity Estates. As the managing agent, our relationship is with the Freeholder/Leaseholder. Any specific clauses, restrictions, or regulations pertaining to your individual tenancy are the responsibility of your landlord or letting agent to provide. We cannot advise on or provide contracts to which we are not a party.<br />
<br />
Residential Use and "Quiet Enjoyment":<br />
<br />
While we understand the impact this has had on your residence, any claims regarding the "quiet enjoyment" of your property must be directed to your landlord. Your tenancy agreement is held with them, and they are the appropriate party to address concerns regarding the terms of your residency.<br />
<br />
Regarding the enforcement action: the parking operators act in accordance with the established site policy. Without a valid permit, the area cannot be used for loading, unloading, or parking for any duration. As the ticket was issued according to these set terms, any dispute regarding the validity of the fine must be handled through the formal parking company appeals process.<br />
<br />
Trinity’s Role as Managing Agent:<br />
<br />
Trinity’s responsibility is to oversee the management of on-site services, which includes subcontracting the parking enforcement to maintain order for all residents. By entering and using the managed parking areas, all residents and visitors are bound by the terms clearly displayed on the site signage.<br />
<br />
Final Outcome:<br />
<br />
Trinity Estates will not be engaging with the parking company on your behalf. Our instruction to the enforcement team is to uphold the terms of the site; by using the car park, you effectively agree to the conditions advertised on the signage.<br />
<br />
This represents our final response on this matter, and we will not be providing further comment or correspondence regarding this specific dispute.<br />
<br />
<br />
If you remain dissatisfied or feel your complaint has not been fully addressed, you may seek an independent review through The Property Ombudsman.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
- Also I have moved address 2 weeks ago , I have updated my V5C logbook and drivers licence. Should I inform UKCPS? <br />
<br />
I would appreciate any advice as to how I should now proceed. I have no intention to pay UKCPS. <br />
<br />
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello, I have am posting a follow up here over from FTLA.uk website regarding my post there: <a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/pcn-x5-private-land-no-permit-ukcps-the-bar-st-james-gate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...ames-gate/</a><br />
<br />
Update as of now:<br />
<br />
1. As expected, all appeals to UKCPS and the IAS have been dismissed. <br />
<br />
The IAS give the following response:<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in an area where the Operator has authority to issue Parking Charge Notices and to take the necessary steps to enforce them.<br />
<br />
I have previously determined the Appellant's appeal against PCN no. z509896, z462713, z483355, z483360 and z518315. Whilst each appeal is determined on its own merits, the Appellant appeals this PCN on the same basis as the aforementioned PCNs. Therefore my considerations are largely the same.<br />
<br />
Images have been provided to me by the Operator which shows the signage displayed on this site. After viewing those images I am satisfied that the signage is sufficient to have brought to the attention of the Appellant the terms and conditions that apply to parking on this site.<br />
<br />
The terms and conditions of parking at this location are such that drivers must display a valid permit in their vehicle which entitles them to park there. In the photographs provided to me it is clear that no such permit was displayed and this is not disputed by the Appellant. It is the driver's responsibility to ensure that they display a valid permit and otherwise conform with the terms and conditions of the Operator's signage displayed at this site. Mitigating/extenuating circumstances cannot be taken into account. The Appellant's distinction between permit holders and non-permit holders is not correct. The terms and conditions apply to all drivers. The difference between them is that permit holders are able to comply with the terms (provided they correctly display their permit), whereas non-permit holders cannot. This is the exact desired effect of the terms and conditions; permit holders are permitted to park and non-permit holders are not. The Appellant claims to have rights under his tenancy agreement which he purports is for the address he sets out in his response. However, the document provided appears to be either a redacted or template tenancy agreement. It does not contain any key information such as the property address, parties names or dates and is unsigned. Therefore, I have no evidence that this document has any relevance or connection to the Appellant or to this site. It is certainly not evidence of an unrestricted right to park and no other evidence demonstrating this is provided. It is often the case that a right to park on a site is subject to the rules and regulations put in place by the landowner, such as a parking enforcement scheme. If the Appellant has a connection to a property on this site, whether by way of a tenancy agreement or otherwise, the Appellant may wish to check the position to avoid any future PCNs being issued to him. The Appellant raises as an issue the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and purports that the Operator has failed to comply with the requirements therein. I am not satisfied that the Appellant has established a breach of PoFA. Whilst the NTK sets out the time of issue, as is appropriate, the period is the time over which the vehicle is observed as shown in the images (which the keeper is directed to on the NTK). The period shown in the images provided to me is 20:54 - 21:00. On the basis of the evidence provided I am satisfied that the NTK is compliant and that the Operator is entitled to pursue the Appellant as the registered keeper. The Appellant's contention that the Operator's evidence relies on a single moment in time and is therefore insufficient is also not accepted for this reason. Whilst I cannot comment on the Appellant's argument that the Operator has not engaged with him on substantive legal issues, this is not a basis upon which I could allow the appeal in any event. The pertinent point in this appeal is that I am satisfied that the Operator has established their prima facie case that the Appellant failed to display a valid permit. In all Appeals the burden of proof is the civil one whereby the party asserting a fact or submission has to establish that matter on the balance of probabilities. The Operator has established that the Parking Charge Notice was properly and legally issued and therefore the burden shifts to the Appellant to establish that the notice was improperly or unlawfully issued and if the Appellant proves those matters on the balance of probabilities then it is likely that the Appeal will be allowed. However the Appeal will be dismissed if the Appellant fails to establish those matters on the balance of probabilities. The responsibility is at all times on the parties to provide the Adjudicator with the evidential basis upon which to make a decision. For the reasons I have set out above, the Appellant has not provided sufficient evidence to establish that the notice was improperly or unlawfully issued. As such, on the basis of the evidence provided I am satisfied that the Appellant was parked in breach of the displayed terms and conditions and that the PCN was correctly issued on this occasion.<br />
<br />
I have considered all the issues raised by both parties in this Appeal and I am satisfied that the Operator has established that the Parking Charge Notice was properly issued in accordance with the law and therefore this Appeal is dismissed.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
2. In parallel I have submitted formal complaints to the estate management company in an attempt for them to order UKCPS to cancel all charges but they have refused, which now allows me to escalate to the property ombudsman <br />
<br />
They gave the following response to my 2nd formal complaint:<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Thank you for your patience while we reviewed your concerns. We understand that parking disputes can be frustrating; however, after a full internal review, our position remains as follows:<br />
<br />
Contractual Basis and Information Sharing:<br />
<br />
We recognise your frustration regarding the lack of direct documentation provided by Trinity Estates. As the managing agent, our relationship is with the Freeholder/Leaseholder. Any specific clauses, restrictions, or regulations pertaining to your individual tenancy are the responsibility of your landlord or letting agent to provide. We cannot advise on or provide contracts to which we are not a party.<br />
<br />
Residential Use and "Quiet Enjoyment":<br />
<br />
While we understand the impact this has had on your residence, any claims regarding the "quiet enjoyment" of your property must be directed to your landlord. Your tenancy agreement is held with them, and they are the appropriate party to address concerns regarding the terms of your residency.<br />
<br />
Regarding the enforcement action: the parking operators act in accordance with the established site policy. Without a valid permit, the area cannot be used for loading, unloading, or parking for any duration. As the ticket was issued according to these set terms, any dispute regarding the validity of the fine must be handled through the formal parking company appeals process.<br />
<br />
Trinity’s Role as Managing Agent:<br />
<br />
Trinity’s responsibility is to oversee the management of on-site services, which includes subcontracting the parking enforcement to maintain order for all residents. By entering and using the managed parking areas, all residents and visitors are bound by the terms clearly displayed on the site signage.<br />
<br />
Final Outcome:<br />
<br />
Trinity Estates will not be engaging with the parking company on your behalf. Our instruction to the enforcement team is to uphold the terms of the site; by using the car park, you effectively agree to the conditions advertised on the signage.<br />
<br />
This represents our final response on this matter, and we will not be providing further comment or correspondence regarding this specific dispute.<br />
<br />
<br />
If you remain dissatisfied or feel your complaint has not been fully addressed, you may seek an independent review through The Property Ombudsman.</blockquote>
<br />
<br />
- Also I have moved address 2 weeks ago , I have updated my V5C logbook and drivers licence. Should I inform UKCPS? <br />
<br />
I would appreciate any advice as to how I should now proceed. I have no intention to pay UKCPS. <br />
<br />
Thanks]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Southampton PCN, POFA non compliant]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=68</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=53">Dom.mcck</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Britannia Parking Group Limited, relating to an alleged contravention on Friday, 13 February 2026. The notice itself is dated Tuesday, 03 March 2026, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Southampton - west quay retail park, harbour parade so15 1ba.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates NON_COMPLIANT: Likely outside PoFA paragraph 9 timing window. Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Thursday, 05 March 2026 (20 days after the alleged event). On this basis, keeper liability may not be established.<br />
<br />
(In a follow up email the company admitted the claim is non compliant with POFA)<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: Yes<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Response/appeal already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
I appealed on grounds that it is not POFA 2012 compliant due to the notice to keeper coming later than 14 days after the offence<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
I appealed and they responded by saying they were using pre POFA implied contract with driver - if I don’t nominate a driver there is a “probability” that the driver is the registered keeper<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.<br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Britannia Parking Group Limited, relating to an alleged contravention on Friday, 13 February 2026. The notice itself is dated Tuesday, 03 March 2026, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Southampton - west quay retail park, harbour parade so15 1ba.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates NON_COMPLIANT: Likely outside PoFA paragraph 9 timing window. Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Thursday, 05 March 2026 (20 days after the alleged event). On this basis, keeper liability may not be established.<br />
<br />
(In a follow up email the company admitted the claim is non compliant with POFA)<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: Yes<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Response/appeal already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
I appealed on grounds that it is not POFA 2012 compliant due to the notice to keeper coming later than 14 days after the offence<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
I appealed and they responded by saying they were using pre POFA implied contract with driver - if I don’t nominate a driver there is a “probability” that the driver is the registered keeper<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Parking notice in a private car park]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=67</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 10:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=52">Knight rider</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Civil Enforcement Ltd, relating to an alleged contravention on Wednesday, 10 December 2025. The notice itself is dated Wednesday, 17 December 2025, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as 61 SUFFOLK ROAD.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Friday, 19 December 2025 (9 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: Yes<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Response/appeal already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
Yes we have made an appeal to Civil Enforcement which has now been turned down. Next phase is to go to POPLA<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
We have appealed but it has been turned down. Need to go to POPLA<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Civil Enforcement Ltd, relating to an alleged contravention on Wednesday, 10 December 2025. The notice itself is dated Wednesday, 17 December 2025, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as 61 SUFFOLK ROAD.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Friday, 19 December 2025 (9 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: Yes<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Response/appeal already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
Yes we have made an appeal to Civil Enforcement which has now been turned down. Next phase is to go to POPLA<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
We have appealed but it has been turned down. Need to go to POPLA<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Parkingeye PCN: Passey Place Car Park - Ticket Not Purchased!]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=66</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2026 11:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=32">Eryobotrya</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[HELP!!<br />
<br />
1. The car park is attached to the Eltham branch of Sainsburys.<br />
<br />
2. The parking tariff is refunded if you spend £10 or more in store.<br />
<br />
3. This wasn't a shopping trip. The driver's missus was attending a hospital appt. at the Eltham Community Hospital.<br />
<br />
4. She has a 'blue badge', which she believed exempted her from normal parking charges.<br />
<br />
5. The driver knew this was nonsense, but unfortunately didn't engage his grey matter sufficiently to challenge her baseless assumptions.<br />
<br />
6. Consequently, no ticket was purchased.<br />
<br />
7. You now have before you the result of the driver's own stupidity and lack of engagement with his missus' misapprehensions about her parking rights.<br />
<br />
8. The driver is painfully aware that the PPC will just laugh at any appeal based on this set of circumstances. He would rather by-pass this stage altogether if legally feasible.<br />
<br />
9. Although there must be signs all over the place, none were seen or read. The disabled bays were by the entrance, and the driver had no reason to seek them out.<br />
<br />
10. The driver wonders if the invoice might be successfully challenged by arguing, for example, that there is no contract between him and the PPC.<br />
<br />
11. Her misapprehensions arose from a tel/con. with Customer Services at Bexley Council, who assured her that no charges applied to her when using council-owned car parks.<br />
<br />
12. It was also assumed that this car park was owned by Greenwich Council. Unfortunately:<br />
<br />
"No, the Eltham Sainsbury’s car park (Passey Place) is not, and has not been, directly owned by Greenwich Council. It is owned and operated by the Greenwich Enterprise Board (GEB), a social enterprise and independent body, although the Council helped establish the GEB. It is technically private land, though open to the public."<br />
<br />
Yes, the driver walked into this one. Any grounds for a defence? Any point in appealing when the driver knows any appeal will be rejected OOH?<br />
<br />
Any help/advice greatly appreciated.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://ibb.co/album/0DJXWq" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/album/0DJXWq</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[HELP!!<br />
<br />
1. The car park is attached to the Eltham branch of Sainsburys.<br />
<br />
2. The parking tariff is refunded if you spend £10 or more in store.<br />
<br />
3. This wasn't a shopping trip. The driver's missus was attending a hospital appt. at the Eltham Community Hospital.<br />
<br />
4. She has a 'blue badge', which she believed exempted her from normal parking charges.<br />
<br />
5. The driver knew this was nonsense, but unfortunately didn't engage his grey matter sufficiently to challenge her baseless assumptions.<br />
<br />
6. Consequently, no ticket was purchased.<br />
<br />
7. You now have before you the result of the driver's own stupidity and lack of engagement with his missus' misapprehensions about her parking rights.<br />
<br />
8. The driver is painfully aware that the PPC will just laugh at any appeal based on this set of circumstances. He would rather by-pass this stage altogether if legally feasible.<br />
<br />
9. Although there must be signs all over the place, none were seen or read. The disabled bays were by the entrance, and the driver had no reason to seek them out.<br />
<br />
10. The driver wonders if the invoice might be successfully challenged by arguing, for example, that there is no contract between him and the PPC.<br />
<br />
11. Her misapprehensions arose from a tel/con. with Customer Services at Bexley Council, who assured her that no charges applied to her when using council-owned car parks.<br />
<br />
12. It was also assumed that this car park was owned by Greenwich Council. Unfortunately:<br />
<br />
"No, the Eltham Sainsbury’s car park (Passey Place) is not, and has not been, directly owned by Greenwich Council. It is owned and operated by the Greenwich Enterprise Board (GEB), a social enterprise and independent body, although the Council helped establish the GEB. It is technically private land, though open to the public."<br />
<br />
Yes, the driver walked into this one. Any grounds for a defence? Any point in appealing when the driver knows any appeal will be rejected OOH?<br />
<br />
Any help/advice greatly appreciated.<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Horizon Proceedings]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=65</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=50">Gooner</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Good Afternoon<br />
<br />
I have previously received advice on the flta.uk website, my thread link is:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/gladstones-horizon-claim-form-received/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...-received/</a><br />
<br />
I thought this had died a death, however I have now recieved in the post a Notice Of Transfer Of Proceedings to the claimant Horizon Parking Limited, the advice previously was that the claimant would usually pull out of proceedings before any fees were paid, I am happy to wait and see but I am concerned that I should also be doing something in preparation/ anticipation for any escalation of the matter.<br />
<br />
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.<br />
<br />
Thank You]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Good Afternoon<br />
<br />
I have previously received advice on the flta.uk website, my thread link is:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/gladstones-horizon-claim-form-received/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...-received/</a><br />
<br />
I thought this had died a death, however I have now recieved in the post a Notice Of Transfer Of Proceedings to the claimant Horizon Parking Limited, the advice previously was that the claimant would usually pull out of proceedings before any fees were paid, I am happy to wait and see but I am concerned that I should also be doing something in preparation/ anticipation for any escalation of the matter.<br />
<br />
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.<br />
<br />
Thank You]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Uxbridge Industrial Estate]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=64</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 18:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=49">Stuart</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi B789<br />
<br />
You was helping me last year on flta advice forum and gave me great advice and I have discovered you are now running this forum. <br />
<br />
I’m hoping you can help me with the next step. <br />
<br />
I will link the original thread here <a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/uxbridge-industrial-estate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...al-estate/</a><br />
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I have now revived a Letter before claim for this parking ticket. <br />
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I have drafted a response using Chat GPT after feeding the info into it. If you could verify what I will send is sufficient that would be great. <br />
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Dear Sir/Madam,<br />
Re: Letter Before Claim<br />
Reference: [Insert Reference]<br />
<br />
I dispute the alleged debt in full.<br />
Your client’s own evidence confirms that the vehicle was present for approximately 44 seconds. This is fatal to any claim.<br />
<br />
The Private Parking Code of Practice requires that a driver must be allowed a minimum consideration period of five minutes to read signage and decide whether to accept the terms. A duration of 44 seconds makes it impossible for any contract to have been formed. No reasonable person could locate, read, and accept contractual terms within that timeframe.<br />
Accordingly, no contract was formed, no breach occurred, and no charge is payable.<br />
<br />
Further, your client’s Notice to Keeper is non-compliant with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. It fails to:<br />
<br />
Specify the land with sufficient clarity (referring only to a broad industrial estate covering multiple roads and an incorrect postcode);<br />
Specify any period of parking;<br />
Properly identify the creditor.<br />
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As such, keeper liability does not apply.<br />
<br />
In addition, the signage relied upon is prohibitive (“No Parking”) and therefore incapable of forming a contractual agreement.<br />
<br />
Given the above, your client’s claim has no realistic prospect of success.<br />
<br />
I require the matter to be placed on hold for 30 days and request full disclosure of all documents relied upon, including:<br />
<br />
In accordance with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, please provide the following:<br />
A copy of the original Parking Charge Notice and all correspondence<br />
All photographic evidence relied upon<br />
A precise site map identifying the exact location of the alleged contravention and clarification of the postcode discrepancy<br />
Evidence of the alleged period of parking, including full observation logs<br />
Copies of all signage in place at the time, including wording and locations<br />
A full unredacted copy of the contract with the landowner, including proof of authority to operate and litigate<br />
Confirmation of the legal basis of the claim (contract or trespass)<br />
A detailed breakdown of the sum claimed and the legal basis for any additional charges<br />
Until this information is provided, the claim is not properly particularised and I am unable to respond substantively.<br />
<br />
Should your client proceed with litigation, I will robustly defend the claim and seek recovery of costs for unreasonable conduct.<br />
<br />
Yours faithfully,<br />
[Your Name]<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi B789<br />
<br />
You was helping me last year on flta advice forum and gave me great advice and I have discovered you are now running this forum. <br />
<br />
I’m hoping you can help me with the next step. <br />
<br />
I will link the original thread here <a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/uxbridge-industrial-estate/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick...al-estate/</a><br />
<br />
If you want me to bring all the information here into this thread I can <br />
<br />
I have now revived a Letter before claim for this parking ticket. <br />
<br />
I have drafted a response using Chat GPT after feeding the info into it. If you could verify what I will send is sufficient that would be great. <br />
<br />
<br />
Dear Sir/Madam,<br />
Re: Letter Before Claim<br />
Reference: [Insert Reference]<br />
<br />
I dispute the alleged debt in full.<br />
Your client’s own evidence confirms that the vehicle was present for approximately 44 seconds. This is fatal to any claim.<br />
<br />
The Private Parking Code of Practice requires that a driver must be allowed a minimum consideration period of five minutes to read signage and decide whether to accept the terms. A duration of 44 seconds makes it impossible for any contract to have been formed. No reasonable person could locate, read, and accept contractual terms within that timeframe.<br />
Accordingly, no contract was formed, no breach occurred, and no charge is payable.<br />
<br />
Further, your client’s Notice to Keeper is non-compliant with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. It fails to:<br />
<br />
Specify the land with sufficient clarity (referring only to a broad industrial estate covering multiple roads and an incorrect postcode);<br />
Specify any period of parking;<br />
Properly identify the creditor.<br />
<br />
As such, keeper liability does not apply.<br />
<br />
In addition, the signage relied upon is prohibitive (“No Parking”) and therefore incapable of forming a contractual agreement.<br />
<br />
Given the above, your client’s claim has no realistic prospect of success.<br />
<br />
I require the matter to be placed on hold for 30 days and request full disclosure of all documents relied upon, including:<br />
<br />
In accordance with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, please provide the following:<br />
A copy of the original Parking Charge Notice and all correspondence<br />
All photographic evidence relied upon<br />
A precise site map identifying the exact location of the alleged contravention and clarification of the postcode discrepancy<br />
Evidence of the alleged period of parking, including full observation logs<br />
Copies of all signage in place at the time, including wording and locations<br />
A full unredacted copy of the contract with the landowner, including proof of authority to operate and litigate<br />
Confirmation of the legal basis of the claim (contract or trespass)<br />
A detailed breakdown of the sum claimed and the legal basis for any additional charges<br />
Until this information is provided, the claim is not properly particularised and I am unable to respond substantively.<br />
<br />
Should your client proceed with litigation, I will robustly defend the claim and seek recovery of costs for unreasonable conduct.<br />
<br />
Yours faithfully,<br />
[Your Name]<br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[GroupNexus Moto Burton in Kendal]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=63</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 15:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by CP Plus Ltd t/as Group Nexus, relating to an alleged contravention on Tuesday, 02 March 1926. The notice itself is dated Tuesday, 09 March 1926, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Moto Burton in Kendal.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Thursday, 11 March 1926 (9 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: No<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
Vehicle registered to a Sole trader, with a T/As company name. <br />
Driver on the night is resident in Northern Ireland.<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by CP Plus Ltd t/as Group Nexus, relating to an alleged contravention on Tuesday, 02 March 1926. The notice itself is dated Tuesday, 09 March 1926, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Moto Burton in Kendal.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Thursday, 11 March 1926 (9 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: No<br />
- Debt recovery letters: No<br />
- Letter of Claim: No<br />
- County Court claim: No<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
Vehicle registered to a Sole trader, with a T/As company name. <br />
Driver on the night is resident in Northern Ireland.<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[PCN Excel Crossley Retail Park, Halifax]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=62</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2026 12:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Firstly, greetings, as a regular on another forum I enquired about 'The' most helpful person for PCN's as I'd not seen him (b789) there for some time and was told about this site, so please forgive the duplicate request for help.<br />
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The driver was fined for parking outside the bays, admittedly they were parked poorly, the driver is heavily expecting and so was in a major rush.<br />
<br />
Can the experts please advise best way to challenge this fine?<br />
<br />
<a href="https://ibb.co/chxkq6wL" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/chxkq6wL</a><br />
<a href="https://ibb.co/NdWSmkr1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/NdWSmkr1</a><br />
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I am told the PCN is not PoFA compliant, is that correct and which paragraph(s) can I use to submit an appeal, thank you in advance.<br />
<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Firstly, greetings, as a regular on another forum I enquired about 'The' most helpful person for PCN's as I'd not seen him (b789) there for some time and was told about this site, so please forgive the duplicate request for help.<br />
<br />
The driver was fined for parking outside the bays, admittedly they were parked poorly, the driver is heavily expecting and so was in a major rush.<br />
<br />
Can the experts please advise best way to challenge this fine?<br />
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<a href="https://ibb.co/chxkq6wL" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/chxkq6wL</a><br />
<a href="https://ibb.co/NdWSmkr1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/NdWSmkr1</a><br />
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I am told the PCN is not PoFA compliant, is that correct and which paragraph(s) can I use to submit an appeal, thank you in advance.<br />
<br />
<br />
Thanks.<br />
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PS. I owe a few cups of coffee from the past so will buy you some...  <img src="https://pptla.uk/images/smilies/smile.png" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[PCN - Overstay - 22/12/24 @ Southgate Park, Stansted]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=61</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 14:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by MET Parking Services Ltd, relating to an alleged contravention on Sunday, 22 December 2024. The notice itself is dated Monday, 30 December 2024, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: Yes. The location is stated as Southgate Park, Stansted CM24 1PY.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Wednesday, 01 January 2025 (10 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: No<br />
- Debt recovery letters: Yes<br />
- Letter of Claim: Yes<br />
- County Court claim: Yes<br />
- Letter of Claim responded to: Yes<br />
- Letter of Claim source: Operator's own legal department<br />
- Operator legal team: dcb legal Ltd<br />
<br />
Letter of Claim response already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
LoC response sent on 11/12/2025 to dcb legal Ltd. A response was received from dcb legal Ltd on 15/01/2026 - both attached verbatim below.<br />
<br />
Dear Sirs,<br />
<br />
Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.<br />
<br />
As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.<br />
<br />
The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.<br />
<br />
Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.<br />
<br />
I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:<br />
<br />
1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability. <br />
2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations. <br />
3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.<br />
 4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate. <br />
5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT. <br />
<br />
I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).<br />
<br />
If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).<br />
<br />
Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.<br />
<br />
Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.<br />
<br />
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />
<br />
We write in response to your recent correspondence in response to our Letter of Claim (LOC) and will now respond as follows.<br />
<br />
It is our position that the Letter of Claim (“LOC”) is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (“the Protocol”). The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover. We would respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.<br />
<br />
For the avoidance of doubt, please note that the timeframe in which to appeal the Parking Charge has expired. You were given the opportunity to lodge an appeal when the initial Notice was issued to you. Given that the case has been escalated to this firm for recovery action, the time to appeal has now elapsed and payment of the Parking Charge(s) is now required.<br />
<br />
The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. Further, in accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA)/International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed, for completeness we would advise that the fee is not inclusive of any VAT, as it does not pertain to a supply of goods/services between you and our Client.<br />
<br />
To clarify, when parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are thus entering into a contract (by way of conduct) and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.<br />
<br />
Attached are copies of evidence pertaining to the matter, however, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.<br />
<br />
You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the amount as per our Letter of Claim. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.<br />
<br />
Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -<br />
<br />
Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account<br />
Sort Code: 20-24-09<br />
Account Number: 60964441<br />
You must quote the correct case reference (711200481722MET) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.<br />
<br />
We would ask that you kindly furnish us with your most up to date telephone number and email address, this can be emailed to us at info@dcblegal.co.uk.<br />
<br />
Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at <a href="https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/</a>.<br />
<br />
Please note that in the absence of payment in the next 30 days, our position remains as previously advised. As such, should our client instruct us to proceed with further legal action, we reserve the right to do so without any further reference to you.<br />
<br />
If you are at all unsure of your legal position, we recommend that you seek your own independent legal advice<br />
<br />
 <br />
<br />
Kind Regards,<br />
<br />
Litigation Support Team<br />
<br />
DCB Legal Ltd<br />
<br />
County Court claim deadlines: issue date Monday, 23 February 2026, deemed service Saturday, 28 February 2026, AoS deadline 4pm Monday, 16 March 2026, defence deadline without AoS 4pm Monday, 16 March 2026, and defence deadline with AoS 4pm Monday, 30 March 2026.<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
1. No driver details have been disclosed at any stage and all correspondence and PCN has been addressed to me as the R/K.<br />
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2. Vehicle was parked in the car park outside Starbucks with intention to make purchase / use facilities, however venue was found to be closed on approach and so walked about 20 yards to McDonalds with children and made purchase / used facilities. <br />
(This information has not been disclosed to MET parking / dcb legal at any stage and has not been cited in the claim from them however I mention it as from researching similar previous claims from other people at the same venue MET parking / dcb legal have previously claimed this counted as leaving the car park and the two venue were separate with separate car parks - even though this is clearly not the case).<br />
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3. Vehicle was parked 55 mins with signs saying 1 hour free parking, however other images in other parts of the car park provided by MET parking show 30 mins. I think this relates to point 2 as well.<br />
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4. A child passenger that was in the car has a medically diagnosed disability (autism and ADHD) that is covered under the Equality Act 2010, (not previously raised but mentioned as came up in Q&amp;A questions on your forum).<br />
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Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by MET Parking Services Ltd, relating to an alleged contravention on Sunday, 22 December 2024. The notice itself is dated Monday, 30 December 2024, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice.<br />
<br />
The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: Yes. The location is stated as Southgate Park, Stansted CM24 1PY.<br />
<br />
A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates COMPLIANT: Likely PoFA timing compliant for paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Wednesday, 01 January 2025 (10 days after the alleged event).<br />
<br />
Current stage:<br />
- Notice responded to: No<br />
- Debt recovery letters: Yes<br />
- Letter of Claim: Yes<br />
- County Court claim: Yes<br />
- Letter of Claim responded to: Yes<br />
- Letter of Claim source: Operator's own legal department<br />
- Operator legal team: dcb legal Ltd<br />
<br />
Letter of Claim response already sent (verbatim where possible):<br />
<br />
LoC response sent on 11/12/2025 to dcb legal Ltd. A response was received from dcb legal Ltd on 15/01/2026 - both attached verbatim below.<br />
<br />
Dear Sirs,<br />
<br />
Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.<br />
<br />
As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.<br />
<br />
The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.<br />
<br />
Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.<br />
<br />
I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:<br />
<br />
1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability. <br />
2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations. <br />
3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.<br />
 4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate. <br />
5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT. <br />
<br />
I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).<br />
<br />
If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).<br />
<br />
Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.<br />
<br />
Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.<br />
<br />
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<br />
We write in response to your recent correspondence in response to our Letter of Claim (LOC) and will now respond as follows.<br />
<br />
It is our position that the Letter of Claim (“LOC”) is compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (“the Protocol”). The LOC provides adequate information for you to identify the debt that our Client is seeking to recover. We would respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.<br />
<br />
For the avoidance of doubt, please note that the timeframe in which to appeal the Parking Charge has expired. You were given the opportunity to lodge an appeal when the initial Notice was issued to you. Given that the case has been escalated to this firm for recovery action, the time to appeal has now elapsed and payment of the Parking Charge(s) is now required.<br />
<br />
The amount owed is a genuine pre-estimate of the losses incurred in managing the parking location to ensure compliance with the clearly displayed terms and conditions. Further, in accordance with the British Parking Association (BPA)/International Parking Community (IPC) Code of Practice, where the Parking Charge becomes overdue and before Court proceedings have commenced, a reasonable sum may be added for the debt recovery fees. The correct recovery fees have been added and will not be removed, for completeness we would advise that the fee is not inclusive of any VAT, as it does not pertain to a supply of goods/services between you and our Client.<br />
<br />
To clarify, when parking on private land, the contractual terms of the site are set out on the signs. You are thus entering into a contract (by way of conduct) and agreeing to the terms by parking and staying on the site. Parking in breach of the terms as stipulated on the signage means that you are then breaking the terms of the contract.<br />
<br />
Attached are copies of evidence pertaining to the matter, however, if there are any documents that you have requested, but that are not attached, it is because we have deemed the request to be disproportionate and/or not relevant to the substantive issues in dispute. We respectfully draw your attention to paragraph 2.1(c) of the Protocol and remind you that both parties are expected to act reasonably and proportionately.<br />
<br />
You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the amount as per our Letter of Claim. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.<br />
<br />
Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -<br />
<br />
Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account<br />
Sort Code: 20-24-09<br />
Account Number: 60964441<br />
You must quote the correct case reference (711200481722MET) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.<br />
<br />
We would ask that you kindly furnish us with your most up to date telephone number and email address, this can be emailed to us at info@dcblegal.co.uk.<br />
<br />
Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at <a href="https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/</a>.<br />
<br />
Please note that in the absence of payment in the next 30 days, our position remains as previously advised. As such, should our client instruct us to proceed with further legal action, we reserve the right to do so without any further reference to you.<br />
<br />
If you are at all unsure of your legal position, we recommend that you seek your own independent legal advice<br />
<br />
 <br />
<br />
Kind Regards,<br />
<br />
Litigation Support Team<br />
<br />
DCB Legal Ltd<br />
<br />
County Court claim deadlines: issue date Monday, 23 February 2026, deemed service Saturday, 28 February 2026, AoS deadline 4pm Monday, 16 March 2026, defence deadline without AoS 4pm Monday, 16 March 2026, and defence deadline with AoS 4pm Monday, 30 March 2026.<br />
<br />
Additional notes provided:<br />
1. No driver details have been disclosed at any stage and all correspondence and PCN has been addressed to me as the R/K.<br />
<br />
2. Vehicle was parked in the car park outside Starbucks with intention to make purchase / use facilities, however venue was found to be closed on approach and so walked about 20 yards to McDonalds with children and made purchase / used facilities. <br />
(This information has not been disclosed to MET parking / dcb legal at any stage and has not been cited in the claim from them however I mention it as from researching similar previous claims from other people at the same venue MET parking / dcb legal have previously claimed this counted as leaving the car park and the two venue were separate with separate car parks - even though this is clearly not the case).<br />
<br />
3. Vehicle was parked 55 mins with signs saying 1 hour free parking, however other images in other parts of the car park provided by MET parking show 30 mins. I think this relates to point 2 as well.<br />
<br />
4. A child passenger that was in the car has a medically diagnosed disability (autism and ADHD) that is covered under the Equality Act 2010, (not previously raised but mentioned as came up in Q&amp;A questions on your forum).<br />
<br />
Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case.
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			<title><![CDATA[UKPC Worcester Blackpole McDonalds Car Park]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=60</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2026 00:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=47">Ogrebear</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello<br />
<br />
Back in Nov, the Keeper got the standard 'fine' letter after visiting a McDonald's in Worcester Blackpole. <br />
<br />
<img src="https://i.postimg.cc/CxfW99dB/UKPC-BS.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: UKPC-BS.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
<br />
After taking advice an attempt at appeal was made but no POPLA code number came through. <br />
<br />
A Notice of Debt Recovery was deliveed on 11/11 - was advised "Therefore, if the NtK was issued on Saturday 15 November. That means the it was deemed delivered (received) on Tuesday 18 November. Therefore the 28 day window of appeal is valid until Tuesday 16 December. The Notice of Debt Recovery was issued on 13 December, at least 3 days too early." Was advised to send an email to complaints@ukparkingcontrol.com and CC aos@britishparking.co.uk making a formal complaint which was done, but it was rejected by both parties. <br />
<br />
Escaltion from UKPC to ZZPS has happened. <br />
<br />
And then today this arrived from QDR<br />
<br />
<img src="https://i.postimg.cc/MHNJB0MK/QDR-letter.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: QDR-letter.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
<br />
No liability has been admitted and no payment has been made.<br />
<br />
Please can we have some advise on what to do next? <br />
<br />
Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello<br />
<br />
Back in Nov, the Keeper got the standard 'fine' letter after visiting a McDonald's in Worcester Blackpole. <br />
<br />
<img src="https://i.postimg.cc/CxfW99dB/UKPC-BS.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: UKPC-BS.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
<br />
After taking advice an attempt at appeal was made but no POPLA code number came through. <br />
<br />
A Notice of Debt Recovery was deliveed on 11/11 - was advised "Therefore, if the NtK was issued on Saturday 15 November. That means the it was deemed delivered (received) on Tuesday 18 November. Therefore the 28 day window of appeal is valid until Tuesday 16 December. The Notice of Debt Recovery was issued on 13 December, at least 3 days too early." Was advised to send an email to complaints@ukparkingcontrol.com and CC aos@britishparking.co.uk making a formal complaint which was done, but it was rejected by both parties. <br />
<br />
Escaltion from UKPC to ZZPS has happened. <br />
<br />
And then today this arrived from QDR<br />
<br />
<img src="https://i.postimg.cc/MHNJB0MK/QDR-letter.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: QDR-letter.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /><br />
<br />
No liability has been admitted and no payment has been made.<br />
<br />
Please can we have some advise on what to do next? <br />
<br />
Thank you.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Horizon Claim]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=59</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2026 16:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=46">mouse</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi, <br />
as a few others have found I'm carrying this case over from FTLA. <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/claim-form-received/msg97674/#msg97674" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick.../#msg97674</a><br />
<br />
@<a id="mention_2" href="member.php?action=profile&amp;uid=2" class="mentionme_mention" title="b789's profile"><span style="color: green;"><strong><em>b789</em></strong></span></a> You have been such a great help and I'm glad to have found you on here. My latest question on 26th February was after the mediation call. <br />
 <br />
 As nothing came of the other one that Gladstone's were pursuing back in December are they waiting for this current court claim to be concluded before starting the process all over again?  As such can they do that?<br />
<br />
<br />
Thanks for all your advice and guidance with this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi, <br />
as a few others have found I'm carrying this case over from FTLA. <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/claim-form-received/msg97674/#msg97674" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tick.../#msg97674</a><br />
<br />
@<a id="mention_2" href="member.php?action=profile&amp;uid=2" class="mentionme_mention" title="b789's profile"><span style="color: green;"><strong><em>b789</em></strong></span></a> You have been such a great help and I'm glad to have found you on here. My latest question on 26th February was after the mediation call. <br />
 <br />
 As nothing came of the other one that Gladstone's were pursuing back in December are they waiting for this current court claim to be concluded before starting the process all over again?  As such can they do that?<br />
<br />
<br />
Thanks for all your advice and guidance with this.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[LPS Ltd - PCN - Private Access Road - Delivering On Site & Vehicle Breakdown]]></title>
			<link>https://pptla.uk/showthread.php?tid=58</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 16:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://pptla.uk/member.php?action=profile&uid=41">TheParkingmeister</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[A company vehicle was delivering to a contractors premises, Oakleaf Recycling which is situated on a private access road owned by Oak Leaf Farms. The Recycling business is seemingly a lease holder.<br />
<br />
Google Maps: <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnbX4aTiDWxD2ZWC7" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnbX4aTiDWxD2ZWC7</a> <br />
<br />
We have had 5 of these before that were subsequently cancelled. They were all recorded stopped on the road waiting to enter the site due to its limited capacity.<br />
<br />
This time the vehicle had stopped coming out of the site. I didn't know why at first and didn't look into it as I don't have the time to investigate everything. As far as I'm concerned, there is an implied licence to use the road as a customer/supplier of the leasehodler.<br />
<br />
We received a Parking Charge NtK, I appealed it on the information I had at the time on 20th February.<br />
<br />
Link to the original Notice to Keeper: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jr9hWGmANQvWei9ky04ZSoclTloTRr-d/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jr9hWGm...p=drivesdk</a> <br />
<br />
Link to initial appeal: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O_EpXWiu3Jn6BHuPtQBaxAXMrvcqNagK/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O_EpXWi...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
Also emailed the "Head of Legal Compliance" on 23rd February, as he had previously assisted in getting the previous ones cancelled and seemed reasonable.<br />
<br />
Link to email correspondence with "Head of Legal Compliance": <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zQ9OhRwTrmd70FefEEqfDxl8EAcEMB47/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zQ9OhRw...p=drivesdk</a> <br />
<br />
I later found out the vehicle had a defect that made it unsafe to continue it's commercial operations, or frankly to be on the road at all.<br />
<br />
I submitted this information to the operator on 26th February with an invoice for the repairs made at Scania Heathrow that was a few miles down the road.<br />
<br />
Email providing the Operator with the information: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szzBxVf0ZhLrW1c_PnPqPglXbxuXI0RT/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szzBxVf...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
Then we received an appeal rejection notice yesterday, 02/03/2026.<br />
<br />
Link to Appeal Rejection Notice: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n-jCVLOiiZoGU_vuLL59LlUuV8rUkbB-/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n-jCVLO...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
After that was received, I sent our Head of Legal Compliance ex-friend, an email as the rejection notice did not consider the vehicle defect.<br />
<br />
Link to further correspondence with Head of Legal Compliance: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_TSOhI7UaXNVhKKnXduNYUome-37Cg50/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_TSOhI7...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
The Head of Legal Compliance thinks he did something by repeatedly saying every aspect of the code and case law I mentioned is misplaced, but then simultaneously only comes out with waffle himself. He also thinks he exposed me by stating some of my points are similar to those found on FTLA forums at the same time he's quoting Beavis for a business access road with no invitation to park. It was a poor attempt to discourage me from taking it further I know.<br />
<br />
But my only option here is to appeal to IAS. If you remember anything about my employer, it's that they won't take this to court. They get spooked by their stupid debt collector letters and pay it. Which makes my job all the more impossible. <br />
<br />
In terms of appealing to IAS, what is the best strategy? I know with POPLA there is basically no point in appealing on legal grounds as the assesors will overlook it, but clear PPSSCoP breaches can be considered. Such as if a consideration period has not been exceeded.<br />
<br />
I am aware that IAS is much worse though.<br />
<br />
Alternatively, is it possible to provide my details as the driver details so all correspondence comes to me personally so I can deal with it,or is that a really bad idea?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[A company vehicle was delivering to a contractors premises, Oakleaf Recycling which is situated on a private access road owned by Oak Leaf Farms. The Recycling business is seemingly a lease holder.<br />
<br />
Google Maps: <a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnbX4aTiDWxD2ZWC7" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnbX4aTiDWxD2ZWC7</a> <br />
<br />
We have had 5 of these before that were subsequently cancelled. They were all recorded stopped on the road waiting to enter the site due to its limited capacity.<br />
<br />
This time the vehicle had stopped coming out of the site. I didn't know why at first and didn't look into it as I don't have the time to investigate everything. As far as I'm concerned, there is an implied licence to use the road as a customer/supplier of the leasehodler.<br />
<br />
We received a Parking Charge NtK, I appealed it on the information I had at the time on 20th February.<br />
<br />
Link to the original Notice to Keeper: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jr9hWGmANQvWei9ky04ZSoclTloTRr-d/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jr9hWGm...p=drivesdk</a> <br />
<br />
Link to initial appeal: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O_EpXWiu3Jn6BHuPtQBaxAXMrvcqNagK/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O_EpXWi...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
Also emailed the "Head of Legal Compliance" on 23rd February, as he had previously assisted in getting the previous ones cancelled and seemed reasonable.<br />
<br />
Link to email correspondence with "Head of Legal Compliance": <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zQ9OhRwTrmd70FefEEqfDxl8EAcEMB47/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zQ9OhRw...p=drivesdk</a> <br />
<br />
I later found out the vehicle had a defect that made it unsafe to continue it's commercial operations, or frankly to be on the road at all.<br />
<br />
I submitted this information to the operator on 26th February with an invoice for the repairs made at Scania Heathrow that was a few miles down the road.<br />
<br />
Email providing the Operator with the information: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szzBxVf0ZhLrW1c_PnPqPglXbxuXI0RT/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1szzBxVf...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
Then we received an appeal rejection notice yesterday, 02/03/2026.<br />
<br />
Link to Appeal Rejection Notice: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n-jCVLOiiZoGU_vuLL59LlUuV8rUkbB-/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n-jCVLO...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
After that was received, I sent our Head of Legal Compliance ex-friend, an email as the rejection notice did not consider the vehicle defect.<br />
<br />
Link to further correspondence with Head of Legal Compliance: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_TSOhI7UaXNVhKKnXduNYUome-37Cg50/view?usp=drivesdk" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_TSOhI7...p=drivesdk</a><br />
<br />
The Head of Legal Compliance thinks he did something by repeatedly saying every aspect of the code and case law I mentioned is misplaced, but then simultaneously only comes out with waffle himself. He also thinks he exposed me by stating some of my points are similar to those found on FTLA forums at the same time he's quoting Beavis for a business access road with no invitation to park. It was a poor attempt to discourage me from taking it further I know.<br />
<br />
But my only option here is to appeal to IAS. If you remember anything about my employer, it's that they won't take this to court. They get spooked by their stupid debt collector letters and pay it. Which makes my job all the more impossible. <br />
<br />
In terms of appealing to IAS, what is the best strategy? I know with POPLA there is basically no point in appealing on legal grounds as the assesors will overlook it, but clear PPSSCoP breaches can be considered. Such as if a consideration period has not been exceeded.<br />
<br />
I am aware that IAS is much worse though.<br />
<br />
Alternatively, is it possible to provide my details as the driver details so all correspondence comes to me personally so I can deal with it,or is that a really bad idea?]]></content:encoded>
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