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PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - Printable Version +- Private Parking Ticket Legal Advice (PPTLA) (https://pptla.uk) +-- Forum: Legal advice forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Parking Charge Notices forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station (/showthread.php?tid=91) Pages:
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PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - samh47 - 06-11-2026 Hi, Great forum, followed it from FTLA. Can you please help with the PCN, details below and attached, the driver was waiting to pick up family, did not see any signs anywhere but did notice other cars (incl Taxis) waiting there as well. ----- This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by UKCPS Ltd, relating to an alleged contravention on Tuesday, 26 May 2026. The notice itself is dated Tuesday, 09 June 2026, and I first became aware of it via received initial notice. The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Leeds City Station, LS1 4DY. A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates NON_COMPLIANT: Likely outside PoFA paragraph 9 timing window. Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Thursday, 11 June 2026 (16 days after the alleged event). On this basis, keeper liability may not be established. Current stage: - Notice responded to: No - Debt recovery letters: No - Letter of Claim: No - County Court claim: No Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case. ------ RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - b789 - 06-12-2026 Welcome to the forum @samh47. The Parking Charge Notice (PCN) you have shown which was issued as a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK) and clearly states on it that it is "non-PoFA" is a "Golden Ticket", as long as the driver is not identified. What that means is that they cannot rely on the provisions of PoFA to hold the Keeper liable if the driver is unknown. The biggest mistake most recipients of these PCNs make is to identify the driver by using language in their initial appeal such as "I did this or that" instead of responding only as the Keeper and appealing in the third person with language such as "the driver did this or that". As this is simply a speculative invoice from an unregulated private parking firm for an alleged breach of contract by the driver, only the driver can be liable, if they know who that it. All they have for now, is the Keepers identification. There is no legal obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver to a private firm. The ONLY way UKCPS can identify the actual driver is if the Keeper tells them who was driving, inadvertently or otherwise. In other words... "don't tell 'em your name Pike"! Whilst they will not admit it, and they will try and intimidate you into paying with false threats of escalation, debt recovery and even a county court claim, as long as you follow the advice here and understand that they have nowhere to go with this, as long as the driver is not identified, there is nothing they can do about it, especially if they try to take this all the way to a court claim. The law simply does not allow them to simply assume or infer that the Keeper must be the driver. PoFA places strict requirements on private parking firms if they want to be able to hold the Keeper liable if the driver remains unidentified. As already explained, they are not relying on PoFA and even if they wanted to, they would have had to issue the NtK so that it was deemed delivered within 14 days of the alleged contravention: Date of alleged contravention: Tue, 26 May 2026 Date NtK was issued/posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2026 Deemed date of delivery (2 working days): Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16 days elapsed Given (delivered) 2 days too late. So, I suggest you submit the following initial appeal: Quote:Parking Charge Reference: [insert] Come back when the scammers reject the appeal and we can then deal with the corrupt IAS kangaroo court that is the secondary appeal. RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - samh47 - 06-12-2026 Perfect, thank you for your prompt response and help. I've sent through the appeal, let's see what they come back with. Out of curiosity, why did you leave FTLA? I have noticed it's much harder to get help on that site now, especially as it's difficult to add images now. RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - b789 - 06-12-2026 (06-12-2026, 01:41 PM)samh47 Wrote: Out of curiosity, why did you leave FTLA? I have noticed it's much harder to get help on that site now, especially as it's difficult to add images now. There were some "ego" problems with one of their mods, so I decided to set up my own forum. I still post occasionally on MSE and very rarely on FTLA under a different pseudonym, but I much more time to deal with only a limited number of cases and till have time to do other things of interest. RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - samh47 - 06-12-2026 You are certainly missed there! And yes, I did find the odd global mod starting with 'a' and ending with 'f' to be a complete a** !
RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - b789 - 06-12-2026 (06-12-2026, 04:06 PM)samh47 Wrote: You are certainly missed there! And yes, I did find the odd global mod starting with 'a' and ending with 'f' to be a complete a** !
RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - Brenda_R2 - 06-14-2026 (06-12-2026, 03:32 PM)b789 Wrote:(06-12-2026, 01:41 PM)samh47 Wrote: Out of curiosity, why did you leave FTLA? I have noticed it's much harder to get help on that site now, especially as it's difficult to add images now. (06-12-2026, 04:06 PM)samh47 Wrote: You are certainly missed there! And yes, I did find the odd global mod starting with 'a' and ending with 'f' to be a complete a** ! If it's the same guy I'm thinking of (both on FTLA and formerly Pepipoo), he’s a protected forum jester‑tyrant who hides behind his moderator badge, fires off stale pop‑culture zingers, and coasts on unearned immunity because the site owners value his financial donations or his ego more than the community in general. I don't post there anymore solely due to his presence. RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - b789 - 06-14-2026 Yes, it is the same person.
RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - 3Sh3roo - 06-26-2026 If it is that person rhyming with Dandy Roster, then yes he's an absolute t*sser! If he spoke like that to someone's face he'd be searching for some missing teeth!
RE: PCN UKCPS Leeds City Station - samh47 - 07-10-2026 Hi, I got the following response from UKCPS, can you please advise how to proceed? Quote:10th July 2026 |