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Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - Printable Version +- Private Parking Ticket Legal Advice (PPTLA) (https://pptla.uk) +-- Forum: Legal advice forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Parking Charge Notices forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim (/showthread.php?tid=84) |
Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - Arbitration - 05-15-2026 Hi guys. Hope you're well. Appreciate what you all do. Please help me with this CEL PCN! I am thinking of arguing grounds: 1. Inadequate information provided 2. It was 2 years ago and I only just received CCJ This case concerns a Parking Charge Notice (private parking firm) issued by Civil Enforcement Ltd, relating to an alleged contravention on Saturday, 01 June 2024. The notice itself is dated Thursday, 27 November 2025, and I first became aware of it via first aware via letter of claim. The notice appears to have been issued as By post (ANPR/camera). Driver identified status: NO. Equality Act considerations: No. The location is stated as Malcom X Community Centre, Bristol. A preliminary Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) assessment indicates NON_COMPLIANT: Likely outside PoFA paragraph 9 timing window. Route applied: PoFA paragraph 9 (postal NtK, no windscreen NtD). The notice is treated as given on Monday, 01 December 2025 (548 days after the alleged event). On this basis, keeper liability may not be established. Current stage: - Notice responded to: No - Debt recovery letters: Yes - Letter of Claim: Yes - County Court claim: Yes - Letter of Claim responded to: No - Letter of Claim source: Operator's own legal department - Operator legal team: Civil Enforcement Ltd (in-house legal) County Court claim deadlines: issue date Wednesday, 06 May 2026, deemed service Monday, 11 May 2026, AoS deadline 4pm Tuesday, 26 May 2026, defence deadline without AoS 4pm Tuesday, 26 May 2026, and defence deadline with AoS 4pm Monday, 08 June 2026. Additional notes provided: I have spoken to the land owner and asked them to provide a letter asking for enforcement of PCN to be dropped - I am awaiting a response ( I am the registered keeper but have since sold the car changing the owner and moved address. The LBA does not state the alleged exact offence but it may be alleged at some point that the parking camera caught the driver allegedly overstaying with a purchased ticket. It was so long ago that it is difficult to remember the details of the event. Please can I have advice on the strongest next steps and defence points for this case. @b789 your expert advice would be hugely valued, would love to give CEL both barrels in court RE: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - b789 - 05-15-2026 Welcome to the forum @Arbitration. Do you have a copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) you received. Reminders and any debt recovery letters are not required and can be safely ignored. With an issue date of 06 May you have until Tuesday, 26 May 2026 to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm Monday, 08 June 2026 to submit your defence. You only need to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare your defence. If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0 The key point with this claim is that CEL’s Particulars of Claim (PoC) are not merely brief; they are legally deficient. They do not properly identify the alleged contractual agreement, the relevant term allegedly breached, or even the actual nature of the alleged breach. The wording is generic and formulaic: “breach of contract/restrictions/TCs” tells you almost nothing. It does not say whether the allegation is an overstay, no payment, underpayment, incorrect registration entry, failure to display, parking outside terms, or something else. That matters because this is pleaded as a contract claim. The Particulars of Claim are generic and inadequately pleaded, contrary to CPR 16.4 and PD 16. Where a claim is based upon an agreement, PD 16 requires proper particulars of that agreement. In Liberty Homes (Kent) Ltd v Rajakanthan & Ors [2022] EWHC 2201 (TCC), Mrs Justice Jefford DBE held that it is implicit that the Particulars of Claim must set out whether the agreement relied upon is oral, written, by conduct, or some combination. CEL has failed to do so. That is a binding High Court authority and is directly relevant here. CEL cannot simply issue a vague bulk claim, say “terms applied”, and expect the Defendant to guess what case has to be answered. The court should not have to allocate court time and resources to a claim that does not properly disclose a cause of action. The defence will therefore be spun around that defect as the lead point. The court will be invited to strike out the claim at allocation stage under CPR 3.4 because the Particulars of Claim disclose no properly pleaded cause of action. In the alternative, if the court is not minded to strike it out immediately, CEL should at least be put to strict proof and required to explain precisely what contract is relied upon, how it was formed, what term was breached, and how the Defendant is said to be liable as keeper when the driver has not been identified and PoFA keeper liability appears to be unavailable. I now generally advise submitting a short defence through MCOL. Whilst MCOL is limited in that it does not allow formatting or the attachment of transcripts and other documents, it has the important advantage of being submitted instantly and entered into the court system immediately. Given the continuing administrative failures at the CNBC, that is now the safer course. Any authorities, transcripts or other documents can be filed later with the Witness Statement if the claim progresses that far. You will need to copy and paste the following defence into the MCOL defence text box. It has been checked to ensure that it fits within the 122-line limit. Quote:1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant denies that any sum is owed to the Claimant. Let me know when you have submitted the defence and confirm that it shows as having been received in your MCOL history. RE: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - Arbitration - 05-15-2026 Hi @b789 . Thanks for getting back with this, it's amazing and your insight is incredible. I'm hugely grateful. I don't believe I ever received a NtK, and I think LBA is the first I heard of this, but I can't be sure as I moved house and the car changed ownership since this event. I will send this in as my defence without AOS as I don't think I need extra time, unless you think it's worth waiting for the landowner to get back with a response (probably 2nd June I am told). RE: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - b789 - 05-16-2026 Thank you. Years of dealing with these unregulated private parking firms has shown exactly how they operate: on the very edge of legality, overwhelming the civil court system with a conveyor belt of claims. They rely on ignorance and fear, treating motorists as low‑hanging fruit on the gullible tree — easy pickings for a business model built on intimidation rather than fairness. You will need to make absolutely sure that Civil Enforcement Ltd have your current address as the only one for service of documents. Because you have changed address since the date of the alleged contravention (a possible reason you never received the original NtK because you didn't update your V5C at the time), you must send them a Data Rectification Notice. Send the following email to the DPO at dpo@ce-service.co.uk and CC yourself: Quote:Subject: Data Rectification Notice – [PCN Reference] / [Claim Number] RE: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - Arbitration - 05-16-2026 Thanks, I've submitted data rectification notice. Is it best to submit AOS and wait for a reply from CE and landowner, or best just go ahead and submit my defence? Thanks. RE: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - b789 - 05-16-2026 There is no harm in submitting the AoS. It just extends the deadline for submitting the Defence. I seriously doubt the landowner is going to do anything if you are at a claim stage. To be honest, I would just submit the defence I gave you. Seeing the NtK is not going to make much difference as CE have issued defective PoC anyway. It is their job to provide as much detail as necessary in their PoC for the defendant to fully understand the claim. They haven't and the defence submitted will show that and is asking the court to strike it out. RE: Help needed with Civil Enforcement Ltd CCJ claim - Arbitration - 05-20-2026 I have submitted, thanks for your help. Will keep you updated if you are interested. I did not issue a counterclaim. |