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Horizon Proceedings - Printable Version +- Private Parking Ticket Legal Advice (PPTLA) (https://pptla.uk) +-- Forum: Legal advice forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Parking Charge Notices forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: Horizon Proceedings (/showthread.php?tid=65) |
Horizon Proceedings - Gooner - 03-25-2026 Good Afternoon I have previously received advice on the flta.uk website, my thread link is: https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/gladstones-horizon-claim-form-received/ I thought this had died a death, however I have now recieved in the post a Notice Of Transfer Of Proceedings to the claimant Horizon Parking Limited, the advice previously was that the claimant would usually pull out of proceedings before any fees were paid, I am happy to wait and see but I am concerned that I should also be doing something in preparation/ anticipation for any escalation of the matter. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank You RE: Horizon Proceedings - b789 - 03-25-2026 Welcome to the forum @Gooner. I have had a quick review of the thread over on FTLA. I see that I advised you at the time to submit the following defence: Quote:1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action. Can you please confirm which bulk litigator is handling this for Horizon? I'm assuming that it is Gladstones rather than DCB Legal. If that is the case, they are unlikely to discontinue before the hearing, unlike with DCB Legal. Can you please show me the Notice of Allocation you received and the relevant dates on it. There will be a hearing date, a date for the claimant to pay the £27 trial fee and also a date or deadline to submit the Witness Statement. The reason I suspect that it is Gladstones that are representing Horizon is because the defence I advised is due to their utter incompetence at drafting Particulars of Claim (PoC) that fail to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). There is still a good chance they will not proceed as far as a hearing, but knowing Gladstones, they are not the brightest firm of litigators and will try and push this all the way. Once you have shown me the Notice of Transfer and the judges orders and dates, I can then advise on what happens next and what to expect. You will not send a Witness Statement until you've seen theirs. RE: Horizon Proceedings - Gooner - 03-25-2026 Hello @b789 1. It is indeed Gladstones 2. Notice of Allocation Attached Thank you very much RE: Horizon Proceedings - b789 - 03-25-2026 OK. That is the Notice of Transfer. You will receive a Notice of Allocation. That is the one we need to see when it arrives. RE: Horizon Proceedings - Gooner - 05-14-2026 Good Evening I have now received the Notice Of Allocation which I attach. Many Thanks RE: Horizon Proceedings - b789 - 05-14-2026 I need to see the other pages/back of the order as there will be other info. RE: Horizon Proceedings - Gooner - 05-15-2026 My apologies, I attach all other pages, the back of the order only has my name and address for envelope window. Many Thanks RE: Horizon Proceedings - b789 - 05-15-2026 @Gooner, OK, so the deadline for witness statements to be exchanged is 03 June. Treat that as a firm deadline and aim to have your own WS ready and served on time. As this is Gladstones, expect their WS to arrive very close to the deadline, if not late. That may put you at a practical disadvantage, but it also works against them if they try to ambush you with new detail that should have been pleaded properly in the Particulars of Claim. Because their PoC are so poor, there is a limit to how much can be answered in detail until their evidence is seen. Your WS can deal with the facts as you know them, but it will also include the point that the Particulars of Claim are generic and inadequately pleaded, contrary to CPR 16.4 and PD 16. Where a claim is based upon an agreement, PD 16 requires proper particulars of that agreement. In Liberty Homes (Kent) Ltd v Rajakanthan & Ors [2022] EWHC 2201 (TCC), Mrs Justice Jefford DBE held that it is implicit that the Particulars of Claim must set out whether the agreement relied upon is oral, written, by conduct, or some combination. The Claimant has failed to do so. That is important because the Claimant should not be allowed to use its witness statement to repair defective pleadings after the event. A witness statement is evidence. It is not a substitute for properly pleaded Particulars of Claim. Once we see their WS, we can deal with anything new, misleading or unsupported in it. If necessary, a short supplementary response can be considered, especially if they serve late or introduce matters that were never properly pleaded. The hearing is listed for 17 July. In this case, the judge has required witness statements to be prepared and served before the Claimant becomes liable for the £27 trial fee, so we will see whether they actually commit to progressing the claim. Also, Gladstones witness statements are often written by someone employed by Gladstones rather than by anyone from the Claimant with direct knowledge of the facts. That can be pointed out to the court. Their statement may be admissible, but much of it is likely to be hearsay, template commentary, legal argument, or assertion rather than direct factual evidence. The defective PoC should therefore remain a central issue. At the hearing, you can invite the judge to strike out the claim under CPR 3.4, or alternatively to give little weight to any attempt by the Claimant to use its WS to introduce a case that should have been pleaded properly from the outset. RE: Horizon Proceedings - Gooner - 05-15-2026 Thank you for explaining, would my witness statement be the same as the initial defence statement furnished last year where reference was made to CEL v Chan and CPMS v Akande or should a witness statement be structured differently ? RE: Horizon Proceedings - b789 - 05-15-2026 @Gooner The defence is not supposed to be the full story or the full evidence. Think of it as a series of “hooks” on which the later witness statement hangs. The defence is written in the third person because it is a formal statement of the Defendant’s pleaded position. It says, in broad terms, what is denied, what is not admitted, and what legal or procedural issues are being relied upon. The witness statement is different. It is written in the first person because it is your evidence. It should say things like “I received…”, “I saw…”, “I did not receive…”, “The signs were…”, “The Claimant has not shown…”, and so on. So the defence sets out the issues: defective PoC, no properly pleaded contract, lack of clarity, poor signage, no clear cause of action, and reliance on cases such as CEL v Chan and CPMS v Akande. The WS then puts factual flesh on those bones. It explains what actually happened, refers to the documents, exhibits the evidence, and shows why the Claimant still has not proved its case. So no, the WS should not simply repeat the defence. It should build on it. The defence gives the court the legal and procedural hooks; the WS is where your own factual evidence is hung from those hooks. |