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Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - Printable Version +- Private Parking Ticket Legal Advice (PPTLA) (https://pptla.uk) +-- Forum: Legal advice forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Parking Charge Notices forum (https://pptla.uk/forumdisplay.php?fid=4) +--- Thread: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' (/showthread.php?tid=36) Pages:
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Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - badrav - 02-10-2026 @b789 got this from previous post, sorry didn't know about the forum If you could please advise https://ibb.co/KpRVFDK9 https://ibb.co/TDYN3PFY https://ibb.co/WNjnC3gC https://ibb.co/r2wP7wKx https://ibb.co/bj7pFKDC https://ibb.co/8DCv8bjb https://ibb.co/pm541BB https://ibb.co/vGLVGzD https://ibb.co/8Sb31qH (02-10-2026, 07:36 PM)badrav Wrote: @b789 got this from previous post, sorry didn't know about the forum Previous correspondence https://ibb.co/KpRVFDK9 https://ibb.co/TDYN3PFY https://ibb.co/WNjnC3gC https://ibb.co/r2wP7wKx https://ibb.co/bj7pFKDC https://ibb.co/8DCv8bjb https://ibb.co/pm541BB https://ibb.co/vGLVGzD https://ibb.co/8Sb31qH To which replied BPA’s Deliberate Misapplication of PoFA Delivery Presumption Dear Ms Staunton, Your dismissal of the rebuttal to the statutory presumption of service is precisely the reason PPSCoP Section 8.1.2(d) Note 2 exists in the first place. You know full well that under PoFA Schedule 4, the “second working day” presumption in 9(6) only applies if the parking operator can prove the date of posting. That statutory safeguard exists to prevent operators from simply claiming a convenient delivery date without evidence. The PPSCoP Note reflects this in mandatory language: “Parking operators MUST retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated.” This is not an optional “best practice” nicety. It is the only practical means by which PoFA compliance on delivery timing can be evidenced. By refusing to require Civil Enforcement Ltd to produce posting records — and by instead fabricating a “presumed delivery” date that either precedes the issue date by over two months (20 July 2024) or, if corrected to 7 October 2024, is still wrong in law — you have: • Destroyed the evidential basis for the presumption; • Enabled an operator to rely on PoFA without satisfying its statutory preconditions; • Acted contrary to the PPSCoP’s stated purpose of upholding statutory compliance; and • Demonstrated why public confidence in the BPA’s impartiality is non-existent. The very fact that you dismiss the rebuttal of presumption is itself proof of the BPA’s regulatory failure. If you genuinely believed in upholding PoFA, you would treat posting evidence as non-negotiable — as the PPSCoP Note requires — rather than dismissing it to shield a member from scrutiny. This correspondence, along with your stated position, will be provided to the DVLA, the MHCLG minister, and the ICO as evidence of systemic bias and failure to enforce statutory safeguards. Your next reply should confirm either that: (a) The operator has provided actual posting records for the NtK; or (b) You accept that PoFA keeper liability cannot apply in the absence of such records. Anything less will be taken as further confirmation of the BPA’s unwillingness to regulate its members in accordance with statute. Yours sincerely Can link to the other forum if allowed RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - b789 - 02-11-2026 Hi @badrav. Yes, you can link to the thread in FTLA. It will save me time not having to search for it. In the meantime, I’ll look through the links you have posted and get back to you here. RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - b789 - 02-11-2026 Of all the documents you've linked to, this is the only one that matters: ![]() Have you submitted your defence yet? You can use the MCOL deadline calculator I created to check the deadlines here: MCOL Deadline Calculator. You had until 4pm on Monday 02 February to submit your defence or, if you submitted an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS), you have until 4pm on Monday 16th February. It is getting close to the deadline if you did submit an AoS, so let me know and I can give you a suitable defence you can submit. RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - b789 - 02-11-2026 @badrav, I found your FTLA thread here: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd'. The most urgent matter right now is whether you submitted an AoS or a defence. RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - badrav - 02-13-2026 (02-11-2026, 11:42 AM)Thanks v much, I havent had anything back from them so but didnt know about AOS, should I try to submit a defence?b789 Wrote: Of all the documents you've linked to, this is the only one that matters: RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - badrav - 02-16-2026 (02-13-2026, 05:52 AM)Is there a defence to submit?This is the FTLA link https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/pcn-from-'civil-enforcement-ltd'-4166/msg106932/#msg106932The last post didnt come up until I saw it now Wrote:(02-11-2026, 11:42 AM)Thanks v much, I havent had anything back from them so but didnt know about AOS, should I try to submit a defence?b789 Wrote: Of all the documents you've linked to, this is the only one that matters: RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - b789 - 02-16-2026 @badrav , You don't have to include all the previous responses when you reply. It is quite difficult to see what you are actually asking I need to clarify a few thinsg first. Have you responded at all to the Claim you have received? You can check the deadlines you had by using this MCOL Calculator I have created here: MCOL Deadline Calculator If you have not responded yet, it is highly likely that you will have a CCJ by default. If you have submitted an AoS, you have until 4pm today to submit a defence. Please let em know ASAP where you are at with this. RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - badrav - 02-17-2026 (02-16-2026, 02:04 PM)b789 Wrote: @badrav , You don't have to include all the previous responses when you reply. It is quite difficult to see what you are actually asking Sorry it comes up with the reply automatically. I havent submitted it This came through yesterday, so I think im screwed? https://ibb.co/CpsQtVFH https://ibb.co/4gpPJZtg RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - b789 - 02-17-2026 You had until 4pm yesterday to submit a defence. If you have not submitted anything, you are at serious risk of getting a CCJ by default. If it is not too late, I advise you to read the following immediately. This needs to be done now, not later. Quote:Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far. RE: Re: PCN from 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' - badrav - 02-17-2026 Ive tried to submit the response online but keeps saying the Claim number or password incorrect Ive checked it multiple times but keep getting the same. I registered as an individual Is there any other way to rest password file the defence? Password had a I which looked like an L It says a judgement has been entered against you. You cannot respond to the claim at this time but you may apply for the judgement to be set aside Have I got any options? @b789 |